CLA 2323 Lecture Notes - Lecture 11: Iolaus, Norm (Social)
Homosexuality in Greek Myth and Real-life Ancient Greece
-homosexuality could never be considered adultery in ancient greece !
-zeus, apollo, hermes, and poseidon are all gods who came to earth and had
intercourse w/ mortal women !
-some of them also make love to young men !
-aphrodite also comes and makes love to men (will talk about later) !
-zeus abducts a trojan prince named Ganymede & brings him to heaven to be his
boyfriend !
-poseidon visits on earth a young prince in the Peloponnese named pelops, which is
his boyfriend !
-apollo has a young boyfriend names Hyakinthos who ends up getting killed !
-Heracles is spoken of as having boyfriends (in the textbook) !
-heracles & hulas!
-heracles & iolaos (his nephew)!
-achilles and patroklos also had homosexual relations !
-in ancient greece, by 600 B.C, there had risen in the greek city an upperclass social
norm of male and female sexuality, that it was considered normal !
-the reason the date is interesting & that we think it emerged suddenly is because it
did emerge and it may have emerged from over the 50 years before thisā the city
had reorganized their army !
-hoplites = a citizen soldier who had to be able to aļ¬ord his own armour & it was
your patriarchal duty to serve in the army and defend your city!
-the greek cities has to begin training many young and middle aged men!
-all these men worked together and what seems to have developed out of that
is an idealization of the beauty in military men (?)!
-a social norm of courtship and romance btwn, an older man and younger man
emerges !
-when the younger man got ~21, he was allowed to continue homosexual relations
but there was the pressure to ļ¬nd a younger man himself and couldnāt stay with the
older man !
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Document Summary
Homosexuality in greek myth and real-life ancient greece. Homosexuality could never be considered adultery in ancient greece. Zeus, apollo, hermes, and poseidon are all gods who came to earth and had intercourse w/ mortal women. Some of them also make love to young men. Aphrodite also comes and makes love to men (will talk about later) Zeus abducts a trojan prince named ganymede & brings him to heaven to be his boyfriend. Poseidon visits on earth a young prince in the peloponnese named pelops, which is his boyfriend. Apollo has a young boyfriend names hyakinthos who ends up getting killed. Heracles is spoken of as having boyfriends (in the textbook) Achilles and patroklos also had homosexual relations. In ancient greece, by 600 b. c, there had risen in the greek city an upperclass social norm of male and female sexuality, that it was considered normal.