PHIL-360 Lecture Notes - Lecture 7: Manichaeism, Logical Reasoning, Eternal Return

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Thesis: argues that socrates does not think that being dead is always preferable to life, and that the religious views expressed in the passage are consistent with his general stance on the benevolence of the gods. He notes: dramatic effect(socrates commits suicide at the end by administering the poison to himself), the general dialogues in the piece seem to allow for suicide, and cebes questions (61d) this (suggests the two components are at odds) Warren questions how a philosopher can claim/reconcile being willing to follow someone who dies and yet not kill oneself. 6(cid:1006) a: o(cid:272)(cid:396)ates app(cid:396)oa(cid:272)hes #(cid:1005)&(cid:1006): pe(cid:396)haps it is(cid:374)"t pious fo(cid:396) the(cid:373) to a(cid:272)t i(cid:374) thei(cid:396) o(cid:449)(cid:374) i(cid:374)te(cid:396)ests. No a(cid:271)solute p(cid:396)es(cid:272)(cid:396)iptio(cid:374) agai(cid:374)st sui(cid:272)ide, it is p(cid:396)ohi(cid:271)ited u(cid:374)less sig(cid:374)aled (cid:271)(cid:455) the gods: apparent inconsistency re: philosophers best interests not actually true: suicide not dictated by the gods is punishable thus not in the best interests. 62e: cebes argues why death is not better for the philosopher:

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